In this oral history clip, Evangelist Norma Fickens remembers her childhood in the 1930s-1950s in Havre de Grace, Maryland in the culture of racial apartheid. She recalls playing with white kids, but also their' parents race-conscious interference. She also remembers inequality between white schools and her school, the Harford Colored School. [interviewed by student Nina Oxendine, Harford Community College]